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Post by BloodAngel on Sept 11, 2006 11:22:06 GMT -5
(Not forgeting Fox and the Hound 2...)
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Post by J. T./Jessica on Sept 11, 2006 14:52:55 GMT -5
(Yeah, but that's not a Disney Princess movie...)
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Post by BloodAngel on Sept 12, 2006 10:46:42 GMT -5
Runners up are Belle and Ariel who have potential, if not true ass-kicking ability yet. Belle DID fight Gaston to save the Beast at one point, Ariel's gone through a lot of shit, they're good.... Just not yet good enough |
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Post by J. T./Jessica on Sept 12, 2006 10:56:19 GMT -5
Just as weirdly, until Mulan, Belle and Ariel were the high-rankers in my opinion...
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Post by BloodAngel on Sept 12, 2006 10:59:39 GMT -5
Ariel could have kicked Ursala's butt if Eric hadn't shown up, I think.
Well, slapped with a tail fin, anyway.
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Post by BloodAngel on Sept 13, 2006 11:41:06 GMT -5
I'm not sure if I've mentioned this, but here it is.
Couldn't Aragorn chose to be immortal?
Seriously! Think about it:
Elrond, Elros, Elwing, and Earendil all had to chose, because of their foremother Luthien, what race of Middle-Earth they would belong to: Mortal Man or Immortal Elf.
Elrond, Elwing, and Earendil chose Immortal Elf. Elros chose Mortal Man. Upon chosing Mortal Man, the Valar created Numenor for him to rule under the name of Elros Tar-Minyatur.
He died at age five hundred something.
Elrond would later go on to form Rivendell. There he and his wife Celebrian had three children, though I staunchly deny the existance of the third: Elladan and Elrohir, the twins, and Arwen.
Arwen would fall in love one day with her foster brother, Aragorn. Aragorn is a direct decendent of her late uncle, Elros. In the appendix, it is clearly stated that Arwen must make the choice of The Children of Luthien: Mortal Man or Immortal Elf. This also implys that the Twins must make the same choice.
Arwen choses Mortal Man.
And thus, after all that, is the question: If the Children of Elrond must make the Choice, doesn't that mean that Elros's decedents would also?
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Post by J. T./Jessica on Sept 13, 2006 21:50:57 GMT -5
Maybe Elrond's children must make the choice because he chose Immortal Elf, but Elros' descendants don't get to choose because Elros chose Mortal Man?
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Post by J. T./Jessica on Sept 21, 2006 19:13:37 GMT -5
Here's something WARPED for you...
Smurfette is the village bicycle. Think about it, there's a Baby Smurf and only one female Smurf (Smurfette) in the whole village, and Smurfette is usually the one taking care of Baby Smurf, which implies she's the mother...
Excluding Papa Smurf (too old, plus he's possibly the father of the whole village, which would open up a whole other bloody can of worms....) and the obviously gay Vanity Smurf, there's give or take a dozen and a half Smurf in Smurf village and one of them HAD to have slept with Smurfette for there to be Baby Smurf... or all of them at different times...
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Post by Enigma! on Sept 21, 2006 22:29:40 GMT -5
There are two female Smurfs, the the second is much too young...
I think you're right? Where do Smurfs come from, anyway?
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Post by J. T./Jessica on Sept 21, 2006 22:53:40 GMT -5
Three, actually, but Granny Smurf was added in the next to last season, appearantly as a female counterpart to Papa Smurf...
Well, when a Mommy Smurf and a Daddy Smurf love each other very, very much... *breaks down laughing*
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist...
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Post by BloodAngel on Oct 5, 2006 12:44:04 GMT -5
As I was rereading "Inevitability" before I post it and "Hidden Sorrow" to the VOLA group and mailing list, I thought about something.
When you're a member of a "True Love Couple" at least one person has to be dead. Think about this:
Tristan and Isolde = The orgional Romeo and Juliet. Tristan died.
Antony and Cleopatra = They're both dead, he was killed in battle, and Cleo killed herself before letting Octavious do it himself.
Romeo and Juliet = Well, we all know them. Both dead.
Psyche and Eros = Psyche nearly died to prove her love for Eros.
Paris and Helen = Ten year war, anyone?
Lúthien and Beren = Beren died when Lúthien's father told him to steal one of the Simarils to prove his love for Lúthien. Lúthien, in a story that sounds a lot like the myth of Orpheus and Eurydice, went to Mandos and prayed for his return. Mandos relented, under one condtion: That she die alongside him when his time came.
Aragorn and Arwen = (The reason Viggo took two shots of whiskey? One for him, one for me) Well, we all know that fucking story, don't we?
And, just because I know J.T. will bring it up, Westley and Buttercup.
Neither of them actually died, but Buttercup did think Westley was dead for several years.
Is it nescescary for a "True Love Couple" to have death involved in the equasion?
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Post by J. T./Jessica on Oct 5, 2006 15:53:47 GMT -5
I think it's because humans seem to think that for love to be 'true' there also has to be some kind of loss, thus they see the greatest loves as needing the greatest loss - that of a life.
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Post by BloodAngel on Oct 5, 2006 18:16:18 GMT -5
Yeah, but still. Why elevate them, espcailly R+J to such high status just because one or both of them die?
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Post by J. T./Jessica on Oct 5, 2006 18:57:43 GMT -5
Who knows?
Maybe Agent Smith is right in the original Matrix movie, maybe humans do define life by the bad things...
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Post by Enigma! on Oct 5, 2006 20:52:33 GMT -5
There's also the idea of love conquering all, even death. The idea that whomever couldn't be together in this life will be in the next (Whatever you may believe the next life may be) is very appealing.
Or maybe all the couples listed were just desperate...
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